שאלות ותשובותCategory: IsraelWhy should we live in this country?
Avatar Anon asked Staff ago

Hello.



Question: If your viewpoint is correct, I don’t understand why you insist on remaining here in a country full of trouble instead of finding an easier place to live somewhere else in the world, a place where you don’t have to do dangerous army service stemming from a war based on religion (Islamic or Jewish or both), where there are no Charedi communities which must be financed by taxes, where there is no religious coercion, and where there are none of the other problems that exist here.



What I understand even less, and maybe the two are connected, is why you bother presenting “humanistic” Judaism, which you claim is the original Judaism. If that Judaism rests only on human logic and not on some “divine” source, we should call a spade a spade — it’s ethics or universal morality. In other words, we can throw Judaism in the trash bin and replace it with something more logical instead of reinterpreting it.



Thank you,



Saul

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Avataradmin Staff answered 12 years ago

Dear Saul,



I will start from your last question, because you have completely misunderstood what we have explicitly stated.

The Jewish religion, and indeed any religion which is based on a “divine” revelation, cannot and does not pretend to be humanistic: these are two utterly opposite viewpoints. In religion G-d is the center while man is unimportant, while in the humanistic viewpoint man is the center and “god” is unimportant. This is what Daat Emet means to do: to free man from his illusion that someone or something is commanding that he subjugate his personal conscience and human intelligence. We present the nonsense exhibited throughout the religious texts to show that they are human creations which imagined a god to be subjugated to and whom man should worship. It is one of the wonders of human behavior that they follow illusions and are prepared to die for them.



To your first question: why the stubborn insistence on staying in Israel? People’s desire to live where they wish is emotional and not subject to rational analysis. Our fathers who shook off the Jewish religion wanted, as did all other nations, to change the Jewish people for a Jewish nation in the modern sense of the term, as many nations in Europe and the United States switched their ethnic identity for that of a modern nation. Not everyone who was called a Jew wished this, and the majority of Jews did not wish to change their religion or ethnicity for an Israeli nation, so most emigrated to other countries and there they are part of their countries’ nations without giving up their ethnicity, culture, or Jewish religion. Some gave up all ties to the Jewish nation. Israeli-born people whose Jewish culture has not waned, us among them, are the children of those who preferred an Israeli nation over a Jewish one, yet wished to retain the culture. Even though some of them had different intentions, often a person does one thing but intends something else; this is what happened and continues to happen with Israelis whose actions place them in the modern Israeli nation but who intend to continue in the Jewish-diaspora mentality. Since it is generally man’s nature to love his place of birth, to speak his mother tongue, to use the ceremonies and rituals which he imbibed in childhood, it is natural and accepted that one would want to stay on in the landscape of one’s childhood.



What is amazing and astonishing in your question is that you understand why the religious are prepared to live in such a problematic place, as you put it. What advantage does religion have over an understanding of humanity? You must mean that you understand why a person would be willing to die for his illusions but that you do not understand why a person would be willing to die for his cultural freedom and for his happiness and dignity. Moreover, according to the religious viewpoint, as expressed by Orthodox rabbis, one is forbidden to establish a Jewish national state; the state that has already been established is inappropriate and must be demolished.

For more on this issue see our answers

Israeli Independence Day and the theft of Israeli lands

The Jewish State



Sincerely,



Daat Emet

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